That voice is an odd choice for Walter Peck. I still think Janine sounds younger than she should be. I’m not sure how much is Coullier’s fault or the fault of the writers/director basing new Venkman on Coullier’s previous stuff.
Peck’s eyes are freakishly large here and it’s kind of weirding me out ;___; Not just him though, that Secuirity guard’s eyes are also huge. the hell is up with that?
I never even grew up with this show (and have not watched it yet either I’m sad to say) and somehow this was STILL painful to see. x__x
Back in the 80s, it was common for studios to have animation teams in Japan do the in-between animation. I recall it being around the time Men in Black TAS came out, Americans started using cheaper Korean labor & the art style of animation America started changed drastically & becoming more varied & less anime looking. But you want some funny looking animation, check out some of the lazy shit that came out in the 60s & 70s, with rotscoping & “limited animation” & “syncro vox.”
Really really early Rankin Bass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O4OKIGFzgA
My personal introduction to the Uncanny Valley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lJJr0lDQiQ
Funny for all the wrong reasons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFnLirXjjto
Someone got high sniffing rainbows & puked this out: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27zfkl_witch-s-night-out-1978_shortfilms
& a whole lot of extremely depraved poorly drawn plotless animated porn I can only refer to as Be4chan.
The one I didn’t care for was the old Gulliver’s Travels cartoon, because it looked like two different cartoons were spliced together. The character designs really clashed.
::Finds it:: The big humans have a kind of a Johnny Quest/Sealab 2020/Birdman/Space Ghost art style & the Liliputians have more of a Jabberjaw/Scooby Doo/Flintstones/Jetsons/Archie Comics art style.
Different characters have different character designs. Some have larger or smaller facial features than others. It is, or was, anyway, quite common in shows of the time. The guard’s eyes looked fine. Since he’s only seen like that briefly I assume he was somewhat off-model. As for Peck, well, I think the movie Unbreakable put forth this notion that large-eyed characters have a skewed vision of reality, and although in that film they meant comic book characters, I can sorta see this idea working for Peck, who believes the world is different from how it actually is.
Or they just thought giving Peck larger eyes would make him look like a loon. XD
For today’s episode of the Real Ghostbusters, the role of Walter Peck will be played by The Joker. A rather gaunt, nightmarish-looking Joker. Seriously, what is up with that design? With the way the mouth and eyes were drawn, I half-expected it to turn out that he was actually a ghost impersonating Walter Peck. Which would make for a much better story than the one we got.
He didn’t want to just re-tread the movie, which I get, but Peck returning for revenge is actually I a really good plot for an episode, just wish we could have seen a good execution of it.
Dear god… Coulier’s Venkman just sounds like an absolute dope. We went from the dignified Lorenzo Music to Dave Coulier making a fool of himself. Sums up the Q5 changes, really.
“Compliance? Compliance with what? Compliance with being an asshole? Compliance with stupidity? Compliance with making this country a shithole?” ~Stephen Fry
The weird thing is that I rewatched some of the old phase-Slimer episodes, and if I’m not mistaken, Slimer was getting about half of the lines and often got every second line, which is something I didn’t notice when I was a tiny kid. I still noticed that there was a quality drop, probably tolerating it only because they didn’t mess with Egon too much. And it’s not like I was a Slimer fan either, I loved the toys back then and I can’t even remember if I had a Slimer, because I didn’t distinguish it from any other ghost. So I think that I was actually tuning out Slimer’s voice.
And to make their treatment of Slimer even weirder, allegedly he’s meant to be the ghost of John Belushi.
It’s rather amazing. I was never really interested in the Ghostbusters as a kid, the idea of busting ghosts was all and good, but at the time nearly everything I had seen for it was prominently featuring Slimer in some way and my thoughts were simply “He looks annoying, I think I’ll just watch something else,” decided not to bother and move on.
And here they are, pushing that Slimer agenda. The one major reason that I didn’t bother with the franchise for the longest time is what they are celebrating and shoving to the forefront at every given opportunity. I mean sure, even before the producer interference he was always there to some extent and I probably could have done without any of it. But dear lord I can’t believe someone decided that making him such a focal point of the series was a good idea.
I don’t hate Slimer. Most fans of the show were fine with him. He was the show’s pet. But yes I do understand the major problem with how the show turned Slimer into the main hero!
I never knew anyone in school whom hated Slimer and I also never knew anyone whom said, “I love Slimer! He’s the real star of the show! I want more of him!” That’s why the network’s choice makes no sense.
I guess it’s like Jimmy Carter asking to barrow your car. He has no reason or authority to barrow your car but he was the president so he must have a good reason.
The Ghostbusters aren’t a law enforcement agency, and they don’t have a warrant but they are the Ghostbusters so they must have a good reason.
I like how the animators have the balls to pander to the underaged fangirls with naked Egon, but cover it up by having him very badly sing an incredibly lame song in an embarrassing granny shower cap with the obnoxious comic relief.
To me, Slimer will always be a giant screaming booger with a Bag of Holding for a stomach. He’s like an annoying amalgamation of The Mask & Flubber, mix in some Orko & Snarf, & a bit of the Hotel Mario incarnation of Princess Peach too.
Could they have picked a more ill fitting voice for a guy that looks like a redheaded Vincent Price? I guess if he’d stuck around for more than one episode, he would have ended up being a Denzel Crocker. S
Slimer is also annoyingly inconsistant. They remind you he’s dead sometimes, but whenever he needs to be rescued, they want you to forget. Sometimes he gets captured but sometimes he oozes through things to escape. & he’s only ever oozy when it’s convenient for the lulz, otherwise the doesn’t goop on anyone.
Ugh….It’s like Janine used to have balls & the execs said she had to be castrated & get plastic surgery if she wanted to keep her job. Imagine what they would have done to Haley Quinn if the same people were involved with Batman TAS. & that squeaky voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
As regards Peck’s voice, I think they wanted him to be as annoying as possible. So without that William Atherton smarm, they went the “give him a grating whiny voice” route.
You kinda have to let the Dave Coulier thing go. He wasn’t that bad, though Music was a superior Venkman. The dumbed down version I believe had more to do with the writing and the network interference than his performance. So fight the real enemy.
The main problems with the this episode is 1. Janine’s crying over Slimer’s kidnapping while the original Janine probably wouldn’t do that, or at least to that extent. 2nd Peck’s voice sounds way to weasely in compared to his film counterpart. 3rd that stupid jumping Ecto-1 scene which I think only exists to sell toys. And Finally the whole we love Sleep jer crap which only would get worse as the series regressed.
Ah, Slimer. To think he went from kinda genuinely terrifying in the movie (he made me hide behind the sofa as a kid) to this kid-friendly nonsense. I suppose it wouldn’t be so bad if he weren’t so darn annoying.
I actually like this episode for all it’s flaws, while it does push the slimmer agenda I like the idea of Walter Peck coming back for revenge on the Ghost Busters and Peter Venkmen in particular only to once again get his comeuppance in the end. As for Slimer I don’t really mind him, he’s sort of family at this point so naturally they would be upset with him being taken away and try to get him back. I think Phelous’s biggest problem with the ABC episodes in general is that they got more serious, they changed Janine’s design, voice and a bit of her character and centered more around Slimer more. Frankly when I hear him talk about later episodes it sounds like he’s mostly whining. Because kids shows are serious business.
When I saw the characters looking like the Q5 era ones, I was like “oh no”. How were they going to screw this up? Some of the decisions in this episode are a bit baffling. Why build a machine that explodes when you use the way you’re supposed to? Was it made by ACME?
I didn’t find Slimer too annoying in this episode, but I can see why the changes pissed you off. Janine seemed more annoying to me in this episode. I think Q5’s changes to her were rather sexist. Anyone else agree? I wasn’t a huge follower of the Ghostbusters cartoon, but I did see a few episodes and I enjoyed them.
Another great episode of the slimer show ruined by Phelous. I’m surprised you haven’t replaced yourself after the 1st season with Dave Collier as per executive collective wisdom. But really, another great episode, really loved the brain dead Venkman in ecto-1 (the equally doofy Ray Stanz is priceless too) Anytime I need to laugh i know I can count on Dave Collier…. wait no, i mean you! I ddidn’t mean it! Come back Phelous! Come back!
This is just really sad, to see a decent show go downhill so drastically that it’s basically plummeted to its death.
Now, I never thought TRGB was as great as Phelous thinks, possibly because it’s highly dated with its random unnecessary musical montages, and its lack of continuity for the most part–the latter obviously being something animated shows barely had until years later–but it was good for its time, even if I don’t agree it’s held up as well as Phelous says. It was still funny, and had some pretty great acting and dialogue. This, though, is just painful.
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That voice is an odd choice for Walter Peck. I still think Janine sounds younger than she should be. I’m not sure how much is Coullier’s fault or the fault of the writers/director basing new Venkman on Coullier’s previous stuff.
Coulier sounds like he’s going for a Bill Murray impression.
Maybe I’m alone but although I noticed the differences in the voices, I never particularly cared, as much as I love Lorenzo Music.
Peck’s eyes are freakishly large here and it’s kind of weirding me out ;___; Not just him though, that Secuirity guard’s eyes are also huge. the hell is up with that?
I never even grew up with this show (and have not watched it yet either I’m sad to say) and somehow this was STILL painful to see. x__x
Back in the 80s, it was common for studios to have animation teams in Japan do the in-between animation. I recall it being around the time Men in Black TAS came out, Americans started using cheaper Korean labor & the art style of animation America started changed drastically & becoming more varied & less anime looking. But you want some funny looking animation, check out some of the lazy shit that came out in the 60s & 70s, with rotscoping & “limited animation” & “syncro vox.”
Really really early Rankin Bass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O4OKIGFzgA
My personal introduction to the Uncanny Valley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lJJr0lDQiQ
Funny for all the wrong reasons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFnLirXjjto
Someone got high sniffing rainbows & puked this out: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27zfkl_witch-s-night-out-1978_shortfilms
& a whole lot of extremely depraved poorly drawn plotless animated porn I can only refer to as Be4chan.
The one I didn’t care for was the old Gulliver’s Travels cartoon, because it looked like two different cartoons were spliced together. The character designs really clashed.
::Finds it:: The big humans have a kind of a Johnny Quest/Sealab 2020/Birdman/Space Ghost art style & the Liliputians have more of a Jabberjaw/Scooby Doo/Flintstones/Jetsons/Archie Comics art style.
Different characters have different character designs. Some have larger or smaller facial features than others. It is, or was, anyway, quite common in shows of the time. The guard’s eyes looked fine. Since he’s only seen like that briefly I assume he was somewhat off-model. As for Peck, well, I think the movie Unbreakable put forth this notion that large-eyed characters have a skewed vision of reality, and although in that film they meant comic book characters, I can sorta see this idea working for Peck, who believes the world is different from how it actually is.
Or they just thought giving Peck larger eyes would make him look like a loon. XD
Would this Ghostbusters episode be better if they added Beautys Father/Old Man, although he might be completely useless now.
I think the only decent The Real Ghostbusters related thing that had the name Slimer attached to it was Hi-C Ecto Cooler.
For today’s episode of the Real Ghostbusters, the role of Walter Peck will be played by The Joker. A rather gaunt, nightmarish-looking Joker. Seriously, what is up with that design? With the way the mouth and eyes were drawn, I half-expected it to turn out that he was actually a ghost impersonating Walter Peck. Which would make for a much better story than the one we got.
I rather like it. He looks like Vincent Van Ghoul…One of the only characters in Scooby Doo I don’t hate as an adult.
I believe the big eyes and large mouth are shorthand for “he’s kinda crazy.”
I’m pretty sure JMS forbade the writers from using Walter Peck while he was the story editor.
There was an episode of Extreme Ghostbusters where Slimer actually did get “double killed” and became a “ghost of a ghost”.
Why exactly? It was such an obvious direction to go in I’m surprised Peck didn’t appear sooner.
He didn’t want to just re-tread the movie, which I get, but Peck returning for revenge is actually I a really good plot for an episode, just wish we could have seen a good execution of it.
Holy shit, I was not prepared for that Tidus laugh.
It totally makes sense here, though.
Dear god… Coulier’s Venkman just sounds like an absolute dope. We went from the dignified Lorenzo Music to Dave Coulier making a fool of himself. Sums up the Q5 changes, really.
“Compliance? Compliance with what? Compliance with being an asshole? Compliance with stupidity? Compliance with making this country a shithole?” ~Stephen Fry
The weird thing is that I rewatched some of the old phase-Slimer episodes, and if I’m not mistaken, Slimer was getting about half of the lines and often got every second line, which is something I didn’t notice when I was a tiny kid. I still noticed that there was a quality drop, probably tolerating it only because they didn’t mess with Egon too much. And it’s not like I was a Slimer fan either, I loved the toys back then and I can’t even remember if I had a Slimer, because I didn’t distinguish it from any other ghost. So I think that I was actually tuning out Slimer’s voice.
And to make their treatment of Slimer even weirder, allegedly he’s meant to be the ghost of John Belushi.
Just out of curiosity, will you ever tackle The Extreme Ghostbusters?
Maybe I must be feeling kinky, but I kinda heard the general saying “Wood Condom” instead of “Good Conduct”. 😀
It’s rather amazing. I was never really interested in the Ghostbusters as a kid, the idea of busting ghosts was all and good, but at the time nearly everything I had seen for it was prominently featuring Slimer in some way and my thoughts were simply “He looks annoying, I think I’ll just watch something else,” decided not to bother and move on.
And here they are, pushing that Slimer agenda. The one major reason that I didn’t bother with the franchise for the longest time is what they are celebrating and shoving to the forefront at every given opportunity. I mean sure, even before the producer interference he was always there to some extent and I probably could have done without any of it. But dear lord I can’t believe someone decided that making him such a focal point of the series was a good idea.
Peck is even a bigger dick on this show than he was in the movie. He might has well been drawn as a giant walking, talking penis.
I remember catching this show from time to time as a kid but I always though Slimer was an annoying shit.
I don’t hate Slimer. Most fans of the show were fine with him. He was the show’s pet. But yes I do understand the major problem with how the show turned Slimer into the main hero!
I never knew anyone in school whom hated Slimer and I also never knew anyone whom said, “I love Slimer! He’s the real star of the show! I want more of him!” That’s why the network’s choice makes no sense.
The Ghostbusters just walk into a secure area?
I guess it’s like Jimmy Carter asking to barrow your car. He has no reason or authority to barrow your car but he was the president so he must have a good reason.
The Ghostbusters aren’t a law enforcement agency, and they don’t have a warrant but they are the Ghostbusters so they must have a good reason.
I swear, at 11:20, that face Peter makes is like Lorenzo Music’s version trying to breakout with a face saying, “Really? This shit?”
I like how the animators have the balls to pander to the underaged fangirls with naked Egon, but cover it up by having him very badly sing an incredibly lame song in an embarrassing granny shower cap with the obnoxious comic relief.
To me, Slimer will always be a giant screaming booger with a Bag of Holding for a stomach. He’s like an annoying amalgamation of The Mask & Flubber, mix in some Orko & Snarf, & a bit of the Hotel Mario incarnation of Princess Peach too.
Could they have picked a more ill fitting voice for a guy that looks like a redheaded Vincent Price? I guess if he’d stuck around for more than one episode, he would have ended up being a Denzel Crocker. S
Slimer is also annoyingly inconsistant. They remind you he’s dead sometimes, but whenever he needs to be rescued, they want you to forget. Sometimes he gets captured but sometimes he oozes through things to escape. & he’s only ever oozy when it’s convenient for the lulz, otherwise the doesn’t goop on anyone.
Ugh….It’s like Janine used to have balls & the execs said she had to be castrated & get plastic surgery if she wanted to keep her job. Imagine what they would have done to Haley Quinn if the same people were involved with Batman TAS. & that squeaky voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
As regards Peck’s voice, I think they wanted him to be as annoying as possible. So without that William Atherton smarm, they went the “give him a grating whiny voice” route.
You kinda have to let the Dave Coulier thing go. He wasn’t that bad, though Music was a superior Venkman. The dumbed down version I believe had more to do with the writing and the network interference than his performance. So fight the real enemy.
The main problems with the this episode is 1. Janine’s crying over Slimer’s kidnapping while the original Janine probably wouldn’t do that, or at least to that extent. 2nd Peck’s voice sounds way to weasely in compared to his film counterpart. 3rd that stupid jumping Ecto-1 scene which I think only exists to sell toys. And Finally the whole we love Sleep jer crap which only would get worse as the series regressed.
Ah, Slimer. To think he went from kinda genuinely terrifying in the movie (he made me hide behind the sofa as a kid) to this kid-friendly nonsense. I suppose it wouldn’t be so bad if he weren’t so darn annoying.
::Visits IMDB:: So Phelan, when did you officially rename your show ” The Super Phelous Angry Reviewing Meta-Show or Something?”
I actually like this episode for all it’s flaws, while it does push the slimmer agenda I like the idea of Walter Peck coming back for revenge on the Ghost Busters and Peter Venkmen in particular only to once again get his comeuppance in the end. As for Slimer I don’t really mind him, he’s sort of family at this point so naturally they would be upset with him being taken away and try to get him back. I think Phelous’s biggest problem with the ABC episodes in general is that they got more serious, they changed Janine’s design, voice and a bit of her character and centered more around Slimer more. Frankly when I hear him talk about later episodes it sounds like he’s mostly whining. Because kids shows are serious business.
It’s actually that they got more goofy that he was complaining about. That and the writing got worse.
I’m sure we know what Phelous problem is. He made an entire video about what his problems are.
And even the people behind the show had the same problem he has.
Wait how did the episodes got more serious?
I think part of his problem was the wasted potential the episode had and how Peck was written.
When I saw the characters looking like the Q5 era ones, I was like “oh no”. How were they going to screw this up? Some of the decisions in this episode are a bit baffling. Why build a machine that explodes when you use the way you’re supposed to? Was it made by ACME?
I didn’t find Slimer too annoying in this episode, but I can see why the changes pissed you off. Janine seemed more annoying to me in this episode. I think Q5’s changes to her were rather sexist. Anyone else agree? I wasn’t a huge follower of the Ghostbusters cartoon, but I did see a few episodes and I enjoyed them.
Another great episode of the slimer show ruined by Phelous. I’m surprised you haven’t replaced yourself after the 1st season with Dave Collier as per executive collective wisdom. But really, another great episode, really loved the brain dead Venkman in ecto-1 (the equally doofy Ray Stanz is priceless too) Anytime I need to laugh i know I can count on Dave Collier…. wait no, i mean you! I ddidn’t mean it! Come back Phelous! Come back!
This is just really sad, to see a decent show go downhill so drastically that it’s basically plummeted to its death.
Now, I never thought TRGB was as great as Phelous thinks, possibly because it’s highly dated with its random unnecessary musical montages, and its lack of continuity for the most part–the latter obviously being something animated shows barely had until years later–but it was good for its time, even if I don’t agree it’s held up as well as Phelous says. It was still funny, and had some pretty great acting and dialogue. This, though, is just painful.